Posted by Todd [172.70.211.215] on Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 11:05:25 :
In Reply to: Re: Funny posted by Ray [172.69.65.131] on Sunday, October 15, 2023 at 08:44:34 :
"Yes they currently use petroleum to mine , transport, and fabricate the new batteries, If their consumption of petroleum was excessive the price of the batteries will represent that usage."
Not necessarily. Electric vehicles are subsidized by federal and state governments, (ZEVs), so that the price is not truly reflective of the cost. Also, the environmental cost of mining lithium in China and other places is not comparative to the costs of extracting petroleum and the taxes and environmental restrictions in the United States. The cost of electricity in California has risen drastically in California, the supposed leader in electric car usage, where brown outs are becoming more commonplace. The costs of buying an electric car are prohibitive to those with lesser incomes, and those same people are paying for the purchase of TVs by high income earners through subsidies and gas taxes, and the increase in electricity costs. Only higher income earners will be able to purchase more expensive new electric vehicles, and lower income earners will be forced to buy and use only used vehicles which will also incur higher maintenance and repair costs. The charging of EVs in California normally takes place at night, during which wind and solar are not available, thus using petroleum and coal rather than renewable sources. The promotion of EVs is more political than practical or necessary. If the cost of producing and using EVs was driven by demand, the government would not need to pass legislation to force their purchase and use. Interestingly, the day after Newsom announced the legislation to prohibit the sale of ICEs by 2035, he announced that California would experience government mandated brown outs because there is not enough electricity being produced. Personally, I could care less if people want to buy electric cars. Good for them. They are wicked fast. But, I don't need the government telling me what to drive, and the driving of electric cars in California and the US will have no effect on climate change.
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